Extending Python Syntax with @

[John Roth]

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> > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:50:58 -0500, John Roth wrote:
> > > Someday people will get over their attachment with being able to write
> > > programs with any old text editor that happens to be lying around, and
> > > being able to print their programs without needing a special
> > > formatting program, but that day isn't today, and I doubt if it's
> > > tomorrow.
> >
> > I doubt it's ever, because such a day would have to be preceded by the
> > day when programs no longer need to be inspected, maintained or
> > transferred between systems not specifically set up as developer
> > workstations.
>
> funny thing is VB has survived this long just because you HAVE to have
> the IDE to edit the code. That is one of the biggest selling points of
> VB.

> It should not be an issue, just make all the IDE's cross platform.
>
> All the worth while Java IDE's are cross platform. Intellij IDEA and
> Together.
> Maybe Eclipse but it is pretty buggy compared to the commerical
> offerings.

Java IDEs are cross platform because they're in Java, which is
cross-platform. IDLE is cross-platform because it's written in
Python, which is cross-platform.

> That is what Python is missing is an quality IDE that is cross
> platform. All the ones out now suck when compared to something like
> IDEA or Together.

Well, yes. I tried using IDLE, and the little things that didn't work
the way I expected (or work at all) made me go back to PythonWin.
PythonWin is hardly ideal either: it's just based on a very good
editor. You can't use the Bicycle Repair Man refactoring plugin,
and the run facility sucks. It's just better than IDLE.

There are supposed to be Python plugins for Eclipse, but every time
I look for them I find stuff that is so far from ready for prime time that
they're embarassing.

> anyone that thinks about following up this post with anything about vi
> or emacs can just stop right now and go back to their hole.