Python Productivity Gain?

[Dave Brueck]

William wrote:
> kbass <kbass at midsouth.rr.com> wrote:
> > In different articles that I have read, persons have constantly eluded to
> > the productivity gains of Python. One person stated that Python's
> > productivity gain was 5 to 10 times over Java in some in some cases. The
> > strange thing that I have noticed is that there were no examples of this
> > productivity gain (i.e., projects, programs, etc.,...).  Can someone give
me
> > some real life examples of productivity gains using Python as opposed other
> > programming languages.
> >
> > From my our personal experience, I have been programming with Python for
> > about 6 months (but I have been programming in other languages for over 10
> > years) and I have noticed that the more I had gotten use to programming in
> > Python, the more my programming speed has increased. But ... this is true
> > with any language that you program in as long as you are learning the
> > methodologies and concepts of the programming language.  Your thoughts.
>
> It used to be that Python programs were shorter, faster, readable,
> writable, and simply better.  But, this was during the days when most
> programmers had Unix background.  Nowdays, most of the programmers are
> coming from Windows background, and Python programs have become as
> verbose and unreadable as Visual Basic or Perl.

I have a tough time taking this comment seriously - didja forget some smilies?
If not, you're basing this opinion on ______?

Is there any evidence that implies that for the same tasks the programs are now
longer, slower, less readable, less writeable, or worse? (or that any slip has
been caused by more Windows programmers?)

> Ruby has not been corrupted as such.  It make complicated thing less
> complicated.  But, it still make simply thing not as simple as Python.

???