Are decorators really that different from metaclasses...
Steven Bethard
steven.bethard at gmail.com
Wed Aug 25 00:08:47 EDT 2004
Paul Morrow <pm_mon <at> yahoo.com> writes:
> I believe that (virtually) all __xxx__ attributes have this metadata
> aspect (semantics) to them. When a programmer says
>
> def foo():
> __author__ = 'Wilma Flintstone'
> __version__ = '0.1'
>
> She does not intend for __author__ nor __version__ to be local variables
> of foo, used somehow by foo in the calculation of its return value. To
> her they are foo /metadata/ --- attributes of the foo object itself ---
> as they contain information that *describes* foo.
I assume you mean that this is what you'd like a programmer to intend? If I
wrote that, I would intend (and expect) __author__ to be a local variable.
I'm not saying that I couldn't be retrained. I'm just saying that right now,
I would not expect it to be otherwise.
> Likewise, when she defines __lt__, __getitem__, __init__, etc. as part
> of a class, they will not typically be called by methods of the class or
> users/consumers/clients of the class [*] the way that 'normal'
> attributes will. They contain meta info that describes a deeper level
> of class behavior.
This seems a little misleading to me. The only reason these methods are
special is because they override operators (something like "<", "[]", and "()"
respectively). You could provide a class with /exactly/ the same
functionality without ever implementing any of these methods. (Well, minus
__init__, but that was a special case in your discussion too.) The only thing
that implementing these methods does is allows your user to access these
methods through an operator shorthand. A simple example:
class Identity:
def get(self, x):
return x
__getitem__ = get
How is __getitem__ any more "metadata" then get is? They provide exactly the
same functionality. The __getitem__ declaration just allows you to access the
get method using "[...]".
Are you trying to say that "metadata" is the same thing as "operator shortcut"?
Steve
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