"Chris Connett" <chrisccc_3k at yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4117c3d8$1 at buckaroo.cs.rit.edu... " [ lis[n:n+4] for n in range( 0, len( lis ), 4 ) ] > which seems very kludgy to me, since it uses a range and len, " range and len are kludgy only to non-python programers. Tom