Call for Grant Proposals

[Maurice Ling]

Thanks for the reminder that it will stay in mail folders for a "LOOONG" 
time. I think I need to apologize for it.

The fact here is that the wordings of the call for proposal is not 
concise and instead on looking at the wordings clearly and suggesting 
better wordings, everyone seems to be only interested in attacking the 
open source vs. closed source of the problem, which might just be a 
minor problem here. If only open sourced projects are logically funded, 
then by changing the words, "The Python Software Foundation is seeking 
grant proposals for projects related to the further development of 
Python, Python-related technology, and educational resources." to "The 
Python Software Foundation is seeking grant proposals for projects 
related to the further open-sourced development of Python, 
Python-related technology, and educational resources." will solve the 
problem.

The crucial issues here are in my other questions that everyone 
convienently forgot, such as, what constitutes complete failure or 
partial failure of the project? Is not delivering a single deliverable 
account for complete failure? And what are the penalties?

I can't imagine that if you had been granted a grant for an open sourced 
development in python and was not told way in advanced that a delay in 
delivering a deliverable will result in you being forfeited the rest of 
the grant money and will have to pay back 150% of all the money you had 
received from the grant, until you had accepted the grant and working on 
the project?

There are more important issues here to solve than an argument between 
open and close source development.

Maurice

Michael Sparks wrote:

>>In either sense, I hate to think that I may eventually force
>>PSF to give me a grant for close sourced project.
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>*Force* a registered charity to give you money ?
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>*FORCE* ?
>
>I doubt I'm the only one **utterly disgusted** by that apparent attitude.
>
>Consider what you say before you send things - you've just stated the
>moral equivalent of mugging a nun, and now it's on record in google and
>mailing lists and in everyone's mail folders for a LOOONG time to come.
>
>The only positive things you've done here is remind me that I should
>contribute to the PSF, and I sincerely hope 2 things a) that only OSS
>projects get financed, since they have very few ways of getting financed
>otherwise b) that some project like Star Killer gets financed to finish
>off what's necessary - open or closed that project will be a boost to
>many, many other projects. (I really hope they've applied)
>
>If it's closed however in the long term its net value is zero. (Much like
>much closed software I've paid for over the years)
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>
>Michael.
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