> I'm not sure I understand why [1]*4 and (1)*4 work differently? [1]*4 > results in [1, 1, 1, 1] while (1)*4 results in 4. (1) isn't a tuple, it's a 1 in parentheses. >>> (1) * 4 4 >>> (1,) * 4 (1, 1, 1, 1) =Tony Meyer