Choosing the right framework

[David McNab]

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:54:16 +0200, Carsten Gehling paused, took a deep
breath, then came out with:

> Oh how often this subject may come up...
> 
> The thing is, I've come to the decision of abandoning PHP as much as
> possible (old projects still remain...), and use Python for all purposes.
> Reason: One language to fit it all (instead of having one language for
> webprogramming, one for batches, etc...)
> 
> I stand now at the point where I must choose a framework for my web
> application development. I've skimmed a few: mod_python, pso and Zope.
> However, I cannot decide on which to choose.

I've been working on an HTML generation framework called 'pyWeb'. Just
posted to this ng yesterday, calling for testers.

You might like to visit http://www.freenet.org.nz/python/pyweb and have a
look.

Cheers
David


> I've read descriptions and comments on
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/WebProgramming to get other's
> opinions. The user comments are sparse though, so I've decided to ask here.
> 
> I like the ideas behind Zope. For instance the "long running process"
> feature that improve performance and retain scripts between requests, among
> other things. I do not, however, like the design of the management
> interface, it would not appeal to my customers. I'm not yet knowledgable
> enough about Zope, to know if this can be changed. Anyone who can elaborate?
> (MaxM don't answer "Plone"... ;-)
> 
> mod_python seems the choice, if I want the feature of retaining scripts in
> memory between requests and want to write my own managemen interface. I
> don't know, if it allows for application variables (variables shared
> globally between sessions).
> 
> pso looks like the framework that is easiest to deploy. If run under
> mod_python, it also retains scripts in memory, but does it allow for the
> aforementioned application variables? And does the performance match up
> compared to mod_python and Zope?
> 
> It'll probably be run behind an Apache httpd server, so I guess Twisted is
> out of the question.
> 
> What is your preferred framework? And why?
> 
> To those who would ask "What do you want to do with it", the answer is:
> General purpose web application development. Porting (enhancing) of my
> existing CMS (built in PHP - it's badly in need of a rewrite, so the time is
> right for changing to Python).
> 
> I am to start on a new web project in the beginning of next week, and I
> would like to use this opportunity to make the switch from PHP to Python.
> Which is why I ask and don't just spend 2+ more weeks to dig further into
> the above mentioned frameworks before making the decision.
> 
> - Carsten