Too much builtins (was Re: Python's simplicity philosophy

[Ville Vainio]

Alex Martelli <aleax at aleax.it> writes:

> EEK -- and have a designed-from-scratch functional module without
> the warts.  What about starting one as a sourceforge project, as I
> mentioned elsewhere?

At least there is

http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoltar-toolkit


[stuff that should remain builtins]

> iter, len, pow [for the crucial 3-arguments case], range (or some
> preferable variant that returns an iterator), and zip seem pretty

+enumerate

> are quite handy for interactive use, such as locals, globals,
> dir, vars, ..., are not all that frequently used in programs --
> so they might live in a module that the interactive mode gets
> automatically, rather than being built-ins.

locals and globals seem to have a natural place in builtins IMHO. 

> All of this would be perfect for the mailing list on Python 3.0
> if the latter existed.  Posting it to c.l.py makes it unlikely
> Guido will ever consider the discussion's resuts, anyway.  The

How about the wiki at python.org?

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