Beginner: How to copy a string?

[Terry Reedy]

<dbrown2 at yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I hate to ask this because the answer must be really obvious.  So
> obvious in fact that I couldn't find it in the tutorial, FAQ search,
> and other docs, google searches, etc.
>
> I just want to make a copy of a string, say s='abc'.

Why?  Given that strings are immutable, there is no point to doing so
(that I can think of ;-).  Think about it.

>   I understand
> that python is not like some other languages and '=' just assigns a
> name to an existing object and does not copy the object.  But there
is
> no s.copy() method apparently.

Again, what would be the point?  What would it enable that you cannot
do now?

>  The other intuitive way (to me) was to
> try str(s) which I think is similar to the way to copy some other
> types such as list().  That did not work. I did see a newsgroup post
> that said to use [:] and I tried it but this is what I get:
>
> s = 'abc'
> >>> id(s)
> 13356752
> >>> t = s[:]
> >>> id(t)
> 13356752
> >>> t
> 'abc'
>
> Just like with str() it looks like it's still the same object.

Congratulations on actually trying some things out.  Here's some more!

>>> import copy
>>> a='abc'
>>> id(a)
7957152
>>> id(copy.copy(a))
7957152
>>> id(copy.deepcopy(a))
7957152

Gee, Python is *really* resistant to copying strings.  Same for
numbers.

>>> i=1234567
>>> id(i)
7691536
>>> id(copy.copy(i))
7691536


> Ok, so what's the trick.  Please be kind.  It's really not obvious
to
> me.  In fairness I did see in the FAQ you could convert it to a list
> and rejoin it which I assume would work, but I suspect there is a
more
> direct way.

Why should there be?  Anything you do to a string to 'change' its
value generates a new string.  It does not matter whether you start
with 'a' or an identical copy.  Python goes to some trouble to *not*
make redundant copies of strings (ditto for commonly used 'small'
numbers).

Terry J. Reedy

PS.  If you write a C extension, you can poke into the string object
and copy the string buffer, or even change it in place, but then you
are programming in C and not Python, and evading the Python/C API.