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Grant Edwards grante at visi.com
Fri Mar 7 12:04:56 EST 2003


In article <b4ac61$ngl$1 at heckle.cc.uregina.ca>, sik0fewl wrote:


> I had no idea that x = y just references y to x

Not really.

The assignment statement 

  x = y

Causes the name "x" to be bound to whatever object the name "y"
is currently bound to. In this usage, "bound to" means the same
thin as "references" in your posting.

> (when x & y are lists).

When x and y are anything.

  x = []
  
That creates a list object and points the name "x" at it:

             "x"  -->  <list object>
            
Then the assignment

  y = x
  
Points the name "y" at the same object:

             "x" -->
                      <list object>
             "y" -->


The important thing is to realize that when you do 

  x = []

That doesn't make "x" a list.  "x" is just a name in a
namespace.  The actual list is an independant object that lives
off in some undefined place.

The assignment creates a name "x" and makes it reference that
object.

The list object doesn't even _know_ that it is pointed to by
the name "x" in some namespace or other. [Unless you want to
talk about reference counted garbage collection.  Then the list
knows that it is indeed pointed to, but that's an
under-the-covers implimentation mechanism that isn't part of
the language definition.]

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