Copyright on the Python and Python-console icons?

Delaney, Timothy tdelaney at avaya.com
Wed Jan 15 22:52:42 EST 2003


> From: Erik Max Francis [mailto:max at alcyone.com]
> 
> Am I going to have to invoke the Descartes argument?  You have two
> possibile scenarios.  In both, he uses the copyrighted 
> material; in the
> first, he secures permission before doing so, and in the second, he
> doesn't bother.
> 
> In the first case, he's fine, because he has permission.  In 
> the second,
> there is always the possibility that the copyright holder (which may
> change its disposition, or change holders entirely) will get 
> upset with
> what he's doing and bring suit.  If this were to happen, it would have
> extremely negative payoff, whether or not you estimate it as 
> having very
> low probability.  The first situation has a non-negative 
> expected value,
> the second situation has a negative expected value.

Do you currently have Python 2.0+ installed on any machine?

If so, you are in *exactly* the same situation now as Mike will be if he
decides to use the icons. And as is is *now* if he has python 2.0+
installed.

You (and everyone else) explicitly has permission as part of the PSF license
to use any works copyrighted by the PSF.

Technically, a PSF member could sue you for installing Python, just as they
could for using icons. However, not only do I not believe that such a suit
would ever be started, but such a suit would almost certainly be thrown out
of court as soon as the conditions of the PSF license *at the time that the
use occurred* were pointed out.

Tim Delaney





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