PEP 308: "then" "else" for deprecating "and" "or" side effects
Harvey Thomas
hst at empolis.co.uk
Fri Feb 14 10:00:01 EST 2003
François Pinard wrote:
>
> [Christian Tismer]
>
> > Dear community,
>
> Nice way to salute! :-)
>
> > there has been some favor of my silly/simple a then b else
> c proposal.
>
> Not so long ago, I added a similar feature in an ad hoc
> language we created
> for one project (French and specialised syntax, and written
> under pressure).
> Strangely enough, it did not occur to me, before this
> morning, that there
> was some relation with this long thread in the Python universe. :-)
>
> If I translate the keywords of our syntax back to English, it gives:
>
> a when b else c
>
> with a chainable property not requiring parentheses:
>
> a when b else c when d else ...
>
> Our language is declarative (tinily functional) rather than
> imperative.
> Yet, the above writings are not far from the original Guido
> suggestion.
>
> I know I'm merely throwing yet another idea is this already
> overlong thread,
> which I did not even attempt to read wholly. Maybe the above has been
> suggested already. I've no intention whatsoever of pushing
> or defending it.
>
> My opinion on PEP 308 is that, whatever is done or not done,
> the key to the
> final decision should be the continued legibility of the
> Python language,
> much more than the tiny bit of added functionality. It just
> happens that
> for our little language, _not_ Python, the above has been
> received as quite
> natural and legible by the non-programmers in the project --
> they used that
> language heavily for providing that knowledge base the project needed.
>
+1 to that
I think that to maintain readability we need to add a keyword. As when is surely less likely to be used as a variable name than yield, could we not treat it in the same way as the introduction of generators and for 2.4 one would need
from __future__ import ternary (or similar)
Harvey
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