PEP308: Yet another syntax proposal

[Aahz]

In article <9pR1a.22187$F25.13842 at nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
Raymond Hettinger <python at rcn.com> wrote:
>"Aahz" <aahz at pythoncraft.com>
>>
>> I still have yet to see a clear explanation of why short-circuit is
>> necessary and therefore iif() unreasonable.
>
>It is necessary when:
>1. One of the alternatives has a side-effect; or
>2. one or both alternatives are time consuming; or
>3. the validity of the alternatives depends on the outcome
>    of the test.
>
>#  Example where all three reasons apply
>data = isinstance(source, str)  ??   source.readlines()  ||  source.split()
>
>1. readlines() moves the file pointer
>2. for long sources, both alternatives take time
>3. split() is only valid for strings and readlines() is only
>    valid for file objects.

You're missing the point.  How frequently does this occur such that
getting all our knickers in a twist is worth it?  So far, most of the
examples pushing a conditional expression have *NOT* required
short-circut behavior.  For the cases where side-effects restrict the
use of a conditional expression, I think perhaps requiring the use of an
if statement is the most appropriate way to handle it.
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