Is there some Python + IDE/RAD for real speed development???

[Jean Brouwers]

Edilmar,

There are quite a few IDE/RAD tools available for Python, both
commercial and open source.  See for example this list

<http://py.vaults.ca/parnassus/apyllo.py/751771926.979528604>

However, before deciding on an IDE/RAD tool for GUI development,
you must consider which underlying toolkit to use, Tkinter,
wxPython, PyQt, etc.  That could limit your choice.

HTH, /Jean



Alex Martelli <aleax at aleax.it> wrote in message news:<vC8Ya.25038$an6.895048 at news1.tin.it>...
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> Edilmar wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > First of all, I'm new in Python...
> > 
> > I have worked with manu langs and IDEs, like Delphi, VB, JBuilder,
> > Eclipse, Borland C++, Perl, etc...
> > 
> > Then, today I think IDEs like Delphi have a excelent environment to
> > develop apps with little time. I saw many people talking about Python like
> > a easy lang to learn and to develop. But I have look at IDEs for Python,
> > or ways to develop GUIs with it, and I think it already is limited when
> > comparing with IDEs like Delphi. Is this afirmation true?
> 
> I don't think you have considered all the available GUIs for Python,
> and, in particular, the commercial ones (like Delphi and its Linux
> version Kylix are commercial).  For example, BlackAdder (which uses
> the same commercial Qt libraries which I believe Kylix uses) seems
> to have the "GUI painter" kind of tool that you require.  If it's GUI
> painters you're after, I think you can find some, either commercial
> or free (not all in definitive versions, many will still be betas),
> for most toolkits you might want to use (PythonWorks makes a commercial
> one for Tkinter, I think one can use glade + gic [gic.sourceforge.net]
> for Gtk, I see somebody's already mentioned Boa for wx, etc, etc).
> 
> 
> > I look at wxPython and PyGTK, but the samples showed that we have to write
> > MANY LINES of code to do simple things. Many people have wrote about the
> > advantage of Python to write little code, but, when talking about GUIs,
> > I think it's not really true, right?
> 
> If you want a code generator (particularly a tool that generates code
> based on a GUI you paint on-screen) that's not hard to find (particularly
> if, as in Delphi's case, you're willing to pay for one).  The amount of
> code to be thus generated for typical GUI's (minus, that is, any logic
> behind them) won't be all that different between e.g. Python and Delphi's
> Object Pascal.  If the code that's automatically generated does all that
> your application needs, then it makes no difference to you what language
> that generated code is in, of course.
> 
> Python's advantages shine when you have to write code as opposed to being
> 100% satisfied with code automatically generated, and in that respect
> there is no real difference between GUI's (as soon as you need to
> customize the generated code or put custom logic behind it -- via
> inheritance, of course, it would be counterproductive to go and edit
> files produced automatically by a code generator) and other application
> areas.
> 
> 
> > Using Delphi, little or none code is need for many things, but wxPython
> > and PyGTK is the reverse!
> 
> I assume you do not mean what you say, but rather that the GUI painter /
> IDE you use generates just about all code you need ("for many things") in
> Delphi's case, while you're apparently not using any code generator for
> either wxPython or pyGTK and therefore need to write all code yourself.
> So, if you want a code generator / GUI painter, get one...
> 
> 
> Alex