Why is Python popular, while Lisp and Scheme aren't?

[Michael Hudson]

"Terry Reedy" <tjreedy at udel.edu> writes:

> There was much discussion about which of dict.iterkeys(), iteritems(),
> or itervalues() should be the default for 'in dict' both for 'if key
> in dict' and 'for key in dict'.  Note that since 'in seq' means same
> sequence in both contexts for other containers (and same underlying
> code is used to get sequence) it was wanted to keep 'in dict' meaning
> same also.  The consensus, considering use cases for both
> constructions, was that keys are most ofter what is wanted.  Think 'is
> word in dictionary' rather than 'is word,definition in dictionary'.
> Normal use of phonebook is similar.

For what it's worth (not much) I'm forever writing 

for k, v in d:
    ....

I can see the arguments for consistency, but I think this is my most
reliable Python error at the moment.

Cheers,
M.

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