Black Adder and piquet

[Ron Stephens]

Thank you. If you do find the documentation you worked on, I would be glad
to have it and maybe I can add to it. Thanks

Ron Stephens

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Wayne Pierce [SMTP:wayne at mishre.com]
> Sent:	Friday, March 01, 2002 1:06 PM
> To:	Ron Stephens
> Cc:	python-list at python.org
> Subject:	Re: Black Adder and PyQt
> 
> 
> Ron Stephens wrote:
> > I am thinking of buying a "home" license of Black Adder, to use for
> > making GUI's for Python programs to be used on Linux+KDE and also
> > perhaps for the new Sharp Zaurus. Does anyone have any experience with
> > Black Adder that they can share? One of my main reasons for wanting
> > Black Adder is to use the GUI builder, so I am particualrly interested
> > in opinions about that aspect of Black Adder, but I am also interested
> > in other aspects as well.
> 
> I really like the GUI builder of BA, unfortunately I think it could use 
> more work.  Granted it is __still__ in beta, but it's been in beta for 
> quite a while without an update.  When I do GUI development I typically 
> do the first part in BA, then manually add in the GUI pieces that BA 
> doesn't support directly yet (like menus).
> 
> The only thing I don't like about the GUI builder is that it doesn't 
> support a lot of widgets yet.  The last I heard they were waiting for Qt3.
> 
> > One question I have concerns licensing. If I buy the "home" version,
> > could I still share my programs as GPL'ed open source, or would that
> > require me to buy the "professional" license, which is much more
> > expensive? In other words, my programs would never be used in any
> > commercial way but I might want to post them as open source, free 
> > software.
> 
> As I understand it, the only restriction on redistribution is if you are 
> distributing commercial apps.  Then you need the business edition to 
> redistribute Qt and the other modules.  It might be good to get the 
> scoop directly from them on this since I got the business edition and 
> haven't had to worry about it.
> 
> > I know Black Adder is still in beta, but is it stable enoough to use
> > already? I suppose I should ask how it compares to PythonWare amd
> > WingIDE, but I kind of favor the PyQt toolkit becuase it will
> > hopefully work well on the Sharp Zaurus as well as the KDE desktopI
> haven't had too many problems with BA's stability; typically I use BA 
> for the GUI design and syntax highlighting then compile and test in a 
> shell.  I've had some lockups when using the run from within BA in the 
> past, not all the time but I was never able to figure out what would 
> cause it so I just skipped it all together.
> 
> The documentation could use some work, most of the PyQT docs are in C++ 
> and can take some fiddeling to get right.  At one point I started to do 
> some documentation for BA to give to some coworkers, if I can find it 
> you are welcome to it (they decided to stick with Perl, so I never had 
> to finish it).
> 
> They have a mailing list (somewhere) for BA discussions, I forgot what 
> the address is and had it sent to an address I no longer have access to. 
> :(  If you do purchase BA, I would say skip the support and the option 
> to receive CDs.  In the time that I have had the program there hasn't 
> been an update, the support is so-so and they haven't ever sent a CD.
> 
> Even with all of that BA is usually the second program I open when I do 
> Python development (the shell is first).  The feature I like most is the 
> ability to collapse code blocks.
> 
> Wayne
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