PEP 284, Integer for-loops

[David Eppstein]

In article <mailman.1015468151.15908.python-list at python.org>,
 "Arthur Siegel" <ajs at ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> >And please avoid the ad-hominems ("too lazy to learn the >language"), it
> doesn't contribute to rational debate.
> 
> And I would beg you to amend your PEP to remove reference to novice users.
> This has become the Mom and Apple Pie of PEP writers.  And I have yet to see
> it in the context of the most straight forward meaning - to remove barriers
> to learning to program for people motivated to learn to program.

I apologize for the unclarity.  I meant to refer to competent 
programmers in other languages who are novices at Python programming.

But maybe that is not the best group of people to refer to, otherwise we 
would be debating proposals for C-like for(x;y;z) syntax.