Iterating through two list + moaning

Pekka Niiranen krissepu at vip.fi
Mon Jun 3 05:53:11 EDT 2002


Right,

1)   now if somebody would:
    a)    change lisp syntax to as clear as Python's is and
    b)    wrap GUI library that supports grid with unicode (wxwindows) to it

    I would change to it immediately.

2) There has also been discussions to remove reduce(), map() and filter()
    from python, but as long as for -loops and list -comprehensions are
    as slow as presently, I am worried of it.

3) What I would like to see is:
    a) a bold move to fix python (to stackless for example) without
        any consideration of backwards compability
    b) Make distrubution smaller and consistent (no len() but a.len() ), since its
standard
        library is resembling a bloatware allready.
    c) Development decisions made only on engineering bases.
        To me GvR and the rest of the developers are not owing anything to us
"freeloaders".
        If they are into money/career, shit happens.

    With current development direction, I see no other result than Microsoft
-syndrome, where you
    cannot fix code because of the wide userbase.

 -pekka-

"Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote:

> >>>>> "Kragen" == Kragen Sitaker <kragen at pobox.com> writes:
>
>     Kragen> "Donn Cave" <donn at drizzle.com> writes:
>
>     >> The function that carries data is cool enough.  Lisp does it
>     >> easier than Python, and in fact does "functional programming"
>     >> better than Python by a long shot.
>
>     Kragen> That's debatable.
>
> If you're going to take the Python side of that, I think you've found
> yourself a real challenge.  After all, Lisp was invented by writing an
> automatic interpreter for a purely functional logic notation.
>
> While you can do functional programming in Python, the syntax and the
> ubiquity of side effects makes it hard to emphasize that style.
>
> At least for me.
>
> Hm.  Maybe I should take a look at M. Pinard's topy tool, and see if
> maybe I shouldn't be writing my Python programs in Lisp (Scheme, to be
> precise)<wink>.
>
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