David LeBlanc wrote: > Aren't these all built in anyway? I don't recall having to do it for > len(mystring). what's this? is too much wiki hacking bad for your brain? ;-) the builtins are all that's built in; see: http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/built-in-funcs.html and http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/builtin.html </F>