I have fixed the win32com makepy problem with win32all-141. It is available at http://users.bigpond.net.au/mhammond/win32all-142.exe I have no idea how long it will work for - win32all-141.exe was still there, even when it could not be downloaded. NFI :) I am still locked out of my starship account, so I apologize for all this messing around. Mark.