Client-side web scripting in Python?

Kevin Altis altis at semi-retired.com
Fri Jan 4 13:28:52 EST 2002


Paul,
it sounds like you got much further than I ever did. You might be interested
to know that you can design your own folder views under Windows. Look for
the 'Web' folder in C:\WINNT or C:\WINDOWS and the .htt files inside. Those
control the folder views and the files are just JavaScript and HTML. I tried
doing  some myself using PythonScript, but Python namespaces make accessing
the DOM more complicated than the flat JavaScript namespace. I can send some
MSDN links... if anyone wants to dig in further.

Also, Neil Hodgson did some simple test files earlier this year that display
PythonCard resource files in the IE DOM. The files are at Pyker.hta and
PykerLaunch.hta:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pythoncard/PythonCardPrototyp
e/

These files are part of the most recent PythonCard release as well. They are
just a test. The idea was that we might be able to share layout and code
between desktop apps and a web app, but the idea wasn't pursued beyond
Neil's initial tests.

ka

"Paul Everitt" <paul at zope.com> wrote in message
news:mailman.1010158089.28339.python-list at python.org...
>
> Hi Rolf.  I'm tinkering around with something similar.  That is, using
> IE5.5 as the GUI for a data model in XML and logic in Python (via
> win32all's support for ActiveScripting).  I've made a bit of progress,
> so if you'd like to send me an email on the subject, go right ahead.
>
> Note that you'll probably want to approach this as an "HTA" (HTML
> Application), an IE5.5+ approach that lets you lower the security system
> in IE and function with all the privileges a regular, full-blown Python
> app would provide.
>
> A number of posts in this thread have questioned the approach of using
> web-oriented technologies as a GUI.  I think it's worth considering.  On
> the upside, if you know HTML/CSS/DOM/XML/XSLT etc., then you'll get to
> leverage a LOT of knowledge.
>
> For example, here's a series of articles on GUI design using client-side
> XML and XSLT:
>
>    http://www.15seconds.com/Issue/010921.htm
>    http://www.15seconds.com/issue/010927.htm
>    http://www.15seconds.com/issue/011113.htm
>    http://www.15seconds.com/issue/011129.htm
>    http://www.15seconds.com/issue/011212.htm
>
> These tutorials show how to build an expandible tree with event
> handlers, context menus, insert/delete/update, drag-and-drop, and a
> progress indicator.
>
> For my project I'm using Python's COM support to put a DOM-like view on
> Outlook data, which I can then "persist" either to a local XML file or
> to/from a remote Zope site.  The GUI for the app is an IE5.5 HTA, with
> XML as the model, XSLT and CSS as the view, a combination of JavaScript
> and Python as the logic, and the XmlHttpRequest component for networking
> over HTTP.
>
> --Paul
>
> Rolf wrote:
>
> > Paul Rubin <phr-n2001d at nightsong.com> wrote in message
news:<7x3d1r2paa.fsf at ruckus.brouhaha.com>...
> >
> >>rolffreimuth at hotmail.com (Rolf) writes:
> >>
> >>>Is there any way to do *pure* python client-side scripting?  Are there
> >>>any good resources with examples of how to do it?
> >>>
> >>If you mean for publishing web pages on the internet, it doesn't sound
> >>like such a great idea.  I've stopped paying attention to Windoze but
> >>I believe there's a Python version (ActiveState?) that's callable as a
> >>COM object.  So you'd have to download the huge interpreter to the
> >>client, and then you could call it from Javascript.  You should be
> >>able to pass it the document object as an argument.  From there, the
> >>python script can use the regular COM automation methods to navigate
> >>inside the document object, or it can call javascript code to
> >>manipulate the document.  I've forgotten most of this stuff but
> >>basically once you get hold of the IWebBrowser2 interface you can
> >>make the browser do most anything you want.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I dont mean for it to be a web application.  I am just considering it
> > as a possibility for a simple GUI.  To run the app, a user would need
> > Python installed, plus MSIE, plus a few other python libs.  It is
> > primarily for my own use and education.  To launch the app, the user
> > would just click on an HTML file on the local hard drive.
> >
> > Having the GUI in a browser is an advantage for this application.  The
> > app basically scans a directory tree for large digital photos (~2MB
> > each) then it uses PIL to create thumbnails and and some more
> > reasonably sized "large" images for publishing on the web.  I also was
> > considering writing some code to manage the FTP of the "processed"
> > images up to my website.
> >
> > Rolf
> >
>
>
>
>





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