Thank you Aahz for stating it so nicely. Most conversation in c.l.py goes on in English, and if it's in anything else *I* am not likely to be able to follow it, but I certainly don't begrudge others the use of their own languages here!!! I-n-t-e-r-n-a-t-i-o-n-a-l-i-z-a-t-i-o-n-lly yours, -- Michael Chermside