Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Aug 5)
Ian Bicking
ianb at colorstudy.com
Mon Aug 5 16:21:07 EDT 2002
QOTW: "Best practice is, as Neil said, to *think* about a module, and
hard, when 'cleaning it up'. Widespread mechanical edits aren't welcome,
and especially since the last such effort (massive conversion to string
methods) introduced several bugs in the process. Better to find modules
to love long-term and keep them deeply beautiful, than to splash paint on
boils at random just to cover up the oozing pus <gross wink>."
-- timbot ( http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=mailman.1027979603.23658.python-list%40python.org)
"As a language designer, or BDFL, there's a fine line to walk between
keeping the language growing and expressive, keeping it simple and
regular, and just keeping it sensible. Guido's done a pretty good job in
my opinion. I'd say that Python is my 'Goldilocks' language - not too
restrictive, not too loose." -- Jonathan Hogg
"If I see one more msg containing 'Turing-complete' on this newgroup,
I'm sorry, but the author dies. "
-- timbot ( http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2851069096d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=UPMAIL09.199704290640490115%40msn.com)
People ponder the lambda, and consider alternate syntaxes:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&threadm=aik9a3%24k7r%240%40216.39.172.122&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF8%26q%3Dcomp.lang.python
...but it's only hypothetical:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2223531272d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=mailman.1027935046.452.python-list%40python.org
Some think lambdas are unnecessary:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4016888880d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=xnh09.145677%24vm5.4740762%40news2.tin.it
While others think anti-lambda biases are arbitrary:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1085081912d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=7x3cu6f8sv.fsf%40ruckus.brouhaha.com
Tim Peters reports on a new (faster) sorting algorithm he's checked in:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&threadm=dAh39.28645%24yc3.1200558%40bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF8%26q%3Dcomp.lang.python
Some discussion of Tcl idioms, and Python alternatives:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&threadm=Xns926026611E674rcamesz%40amesz.demon.nl&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF8%26q%3Dcomp.lang.python
import * considered harmful:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&threadm=slrnaklo11.ocs.TuxTrax%40fortress.tuxnet&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF8%26group%3Dcomp.lang.python%26start%3D50
Guido explains why compiling Python to Java bytecodes won't, or
perhaps shouldn't happen:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl3408831027d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=199704282226.SAA16801%40monty
Look at the Python bytecodes yourself and see:
http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/bytecodes.html
And Terry Reedy suggests a potential bytecode optimization that has
been a long time coming:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2851069096d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=bOy29.30662%24vg.1070500%40bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
Francois Pinard gives the origin of the localization function "_":
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=mailman.1027542588.14725.python-list%40python.org
Alex Martelli give optimization advice on the extremely common task
of building strings from lists:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=vAD09.128813%24Jj7.2970701%40news1.tin.it&rnum=2
A number of solutions are presented for finding executables in the
PATH, in a portable fashion:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&threadm=mailman.1028125430.3390.python-list%40python.org&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF8%26group%3Dcomp.lang.python%26start%3D150
Is anyone working on combining Python and Mozilla? Sleepy projects abound:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&selm=mailman.1028069976.12868.python-list%40python.org
New Software:
Another Python-Server-Pages-alike, empy:
http://www.alcyone.com/pyos/empy/
Crusader enters the fast growing ranks of Python web application frameworks:
http://www.movatis.com/crusader/
A dedicated web-services-server, MSS:
http://www.ansolve.btinternet.co.uk/mss/
An image processing application is begun:
http://imageprocess.sourceforge.net/
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Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages:
Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional
center of Pythonia
http://www.python.org
Notice especially the master FAQ
http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html
PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the
daily python url
http://www.pythonware.com/daily
Mygale is a news-gathering webcrawler that specializes in (new)
World-Wide Web articles related to Python.
http://www.awaretek.com/nowak/mygale.html
While cosmetically similar, Mygale and the Daily Python-URL
are utterly different in their technologies and generally in
their results.
comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software. Be
sure to scan this newly-revitalized newsgroup at least weekly.
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=comp.lang.python.announce
Michael Hudson continued Andrew Kuchling's marvelous tradition
of summarizing action on the python-dev mailing list once every
other week, into July 2001. Any volunteers to re-start this
valuable series?
http://starship.python.net/crew/mwh/summaries/
http://www.amk.ca/python/dev
The Vaults of Parnassus ambitiously collect Python resources
http://www.vex.net/~x/parnassus/
Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group
mailing lists
http://www.python.org/sigs/
The Python Software Foundation has replaced the Python Consortium
as an independent nexus of activity
http://www.python.org/psf/
Cetus does much of the same
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html
Python FAQTS
http://python.faqts.com/
The old Python "To-Do List" now lives principally in a
SourceForge reincarnation.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=355470&group_id=5470&func=browse
http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0042.html
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Links2Go is a new semi-automated link collection; it's impressive
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Tenth International Python Conference
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Archive probing tricks of the trade:
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=comp.lang.python&num=100
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