Why Python/Jython?

[Mark]

In article <3ABAB2F7.127D3872 at webamused.com>, Joshua Macy wrote:
>Alex Martelli wrote:
>> 
>> "Cameron Laird" <claird at starbase.neosoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1901D50DC30D30E4.16551C1AB0FB4363.C0D72E208759F8A7 at lp.airnews.net...
>>     [snip]
>> >     meaningful.  People do NOT start learning
>> >     Java lightly; it often takes hours just to
>> >     install and configure a minimal JDK, let
>> 
>> *blink* -- I'm hardly a Java-ite, myself, but
>> "install and configure a minimal JDK" I would
>> estimate as typically a 10-minute job (on, say,
>> NT -- is it an order of magnitude harder on,
>> say, Linux?!).  Maybe I misunderstand what
>> you mean...?
>>
>
>  It only takes about 10 minutes to download a Win32 installer and run
>it--but if by configure one means understand and implement workable
>solutions to the cryptic and bizarre interaction between Java package
>namespaces, classpaths, and the WinNT filesystem, I think an hour might
>be an underestimate.  Most programmers I know who art trying to "get
>into" Java end up either putting every jar in the world into their
>CLASSPATH environment variable, or downloading and installing something
>like SmartJ...but it takes them more than an hour to arrive at one of
>those solutions unless they have someone to help them.
>
>  Joshua

Yeah. Let's see, been programming for 15+ years, know about 10+ languages,
got into Java right after its beta(JDK 1.02) and spent two years screwing
around with it.

But I'm still real fuzzy on how their paths/jars/imports fully work and it's
a pain in the ass for me to install any app that wants to run off the JDK or
JRE, mostly because getting the stupid CLASSPATH right makes Quantum physics
look easy.

Java = good intentions, bad implementations.

-Mark



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