Zope questions and comments (&Tkinter???)

[Franz GEIGER]

I was in the same situation. I tried hard to become friends with Zope,
because it's a great concept. But all those modules and documents scattered
all over their site. I simply lost the forest for the trees. Then someone
recommended Webware (webware.sourceforge.net). So I gave it a try. Give it a
try too, you'll never regret.

Regards
Franz


"Ron Stephens" <rdsteph at earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3B158C50.887E3D59 at earthlink.net...
> I am interested in Zope and I have  few questions. My interest is in
> running a  "simple" Zope based web server in order to have the ability
> to run server side Python scripts; I might eventually be interested in
> the object oriented database aspects of Zope, but it is not clear
> whether I would be able to devote enough time and energy to actually be
> able to do so. Someone recommended a Zope based hosting service named
> hurrah.com and it looks good to me at first glance. I downloaded Zope
> and fooled around a few weeks ago, it looked good but complex. My
> questions:
>
> 1. Will Zope be too complex for me??? Specifically, if my primary
> interest, in the short run, is to be able to run server side scripts
> written in Python (or at least in a  Python-like language) , will Zope
> allow me to do this? Or will writing scripts in Zope be so complex that
> it renders void my attraction for writing in Python because it is simple
> and intuitive, i. e. , rather easy and enjoyable?
>
> 2. I have already discovered that the gui type input/output functions of
> my scripts are the hardest part for me. I am only interested in simple
> input and output by end users, but I want it to look good and be user
> friendly. I do not need fancy graphics nor multimedia, just well
> designed attractive forms and user input followed by outputed results in
> verbal and numerical form. Will this kind of input/output be a big
> problem using Zope? I almost don't dare ask, but I assume Tkinter will
> not be supported by Zope? Will I really need to resort to other means,
> such as JavaScript, to do such things ??? How straight forward is input
> and output, in event driven programs, in server side scripting using
> Zope???
>
> 3. Would I be better served by using CGI, once I find a host that allows
> me to do so? If CGI scripts written in Python are just as easy and
> flexible as using Zope, maybe that's the way for me to go in the
> beginning. I will still need to find a Python CGI friendly host company.
>
> 4. Any suggestions on host companies for Python and/or Zope?
>
> 5. I do have an always-on cable modem connection in my home. Should I
> consider setting up a very simple web server on my own machine (rather
> than finding a Zope Host?). If I could set up such a simple server,
> allowing me to run server side Python scripts, or even CGI, I could link
> to those pages from my other web site, on my non-Python non-CGI friendly
> web host site.
>
> 6. Is Zope simply so complex that I will soon forget about why I enjoy
> Python, i. e., intuitive, easy to use fun coding?
>
>
>
> General and unrelated comment, for no particular reason, but it comes to
> mind in thinking about what I want to do in the project I have in
> mind:::
>
>
> It seems to me that Python offers straight forward, self consistent,
> logical coding. I like that! But any kind of GUI coding, including
> Tkinter, seems to me to be less intuitive, less consistent; involving
> more memorization of lots of non-connected facts. Python allows me to
> memorize principles and consistently and easily implement them. Most GUI
> programming seems more like I recall Java or even JavaScript coding;
> random,  unconnected stuff that is no fun because it's detailed and
> random
>
>
> sorry for the rant. please disregard ;-)))))
>
>