Guido> Where are the open source projects that *innovate*? "Stephen J. Turnbull": You're making the classic "architects are creative, implementers not" error. http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/443 Oleg. ---- Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ phd at phd.pp.ru Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN.