PEP scepticism

[Bernhard Reiter]

In article <cpith6l3ip.fsf at cj20424-a.reston1.va.home.com>,
	Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> writes:
> [Bernhard]
>> What I've noticed is that I believe that the majority of people
>> contributing to the decisions are not the average python programmer
>> and therefore more likely to be in favour of things which might
>> be unnecessary for the average user. I thought this was valuable to
>> share so you can keep it in mind.

> Well duh!

> If we left the design of programming languages to the *average*
> programmer, the field would never make progress.  

This is an argument I often hear against usability tests for webpages.
You should not leave the decision to them, but make your decision
based on what they need and can use to make good code.
This is sometimes hard to find out and I know that there is no
practical solution to this problem. 

> Please give us language designers some credit.  
> We're programmers and we know what programmers need!
I do. 
(And just because I do not participate very actively 
in Python's programming design does not mean 
I know nothing about designing programming languages.)

> This whole thread has disappointed me.
Fortunatly I did not produce most of it. :)

>> Apard from that I am grateful to the whole python development team
>> and the community for its good work.
> Thanks.

May-you-design-python-in-peace-ly-yours,
	Bernhard