I know I've read a good article or post on the origin and adoption of the "xx-xx-xx ly y'rs" signoffs brought to the python group by Tim Peters. After some searching this morning I couldn't relocate that article/post. Does anyone have a link to it? Searchin-for-love-in-all-the-wrong-places ly y'rs, -- Emile van Sebille emile at fenx.com ---------