lost interest?
Suchandra Thapa
ssthapa at classes.cs.uchicago.edu
Tue Dec 18 12:13:41 EST 2001
Sean Reifschneider <jafo-pythonlist at tummy.com> wrote:
>The problem is largely related to a lack of critical mass. Nobody uses it
>because nobody uses it. This was my opinion in March of 2000 at Python 9
>when I showed off my working prototype of a client and server CPAN-like
>system, and it would still seem to be the case.
>
I definitely agree with this. I think a big part of it is that initially
there is very little software in the repository so people don't make an effort
to test/debug the client since they don't perceive any immediate benefit to
doing so.
>I demonstrated it at Python 9, and then we got together in the cataloging
>SIG to speak about packaging further. Active State promised to open up
>their tool, which doesn't seem to have happened. I expressed the idea that
>I thought packages should, as much as possible, be handled using the native
>system packaging format (using RPMs and .debs, for example), and the idea
>of needing critical mass. We also talked about making a python-specific
>packaging system, which had some benefits and some drawbacks.
I really think that unless there a strong push to get a decent repository
set up any solutions are going to flounder. I also agree that integrating
with the native packaging system (rpm, deb, etc) is very important but
currently distutils only supports windows and rpm installers. I saw some
activity recently on the distutils-sig on getting a bdist_deb target in
distutils but I don't think much came of it.
>So, is it that the people who want it aren't the people who can make it
>happen? Are the people who want it to happen not motivated enough to
>actually do something about it? Is it just not really that interesting of
>a problem?
>
>I wish I had an answer there.
>
>So, currently the system I built is gathering dust. I've set up resources
>for Suchandra to host his code. I hope it goes better.
I've seen some feedback and some activity however I wish there were more
responses one way or another.
>So, if you want to see it happen, I'd have these words of advice: Get
>Involved. Get some packages uploaded, use it, advocate it...
Definitely, if nothing else test it out and submit a report of failures
or successes. If module authors were to submit or give the location of
their modules it would definitely help the packages available for
download work significantly.
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