REPOST: Re: Book "python programming patterns". anybody read this??

[Peter Milliken]

No Gordon, that's a ridiculous assumption!

Who said the code was bad? Not I! Your original email implied that you had
to put some amount of study into understanding the examples - there was an
implication that the examples where not straight forward and therefore
required some considerable time and effort on your part to understand what
was going on.

Nobody has tried to equate this with "bad code", just bad coding practice
(in our opinion - well, Roy's and mine :-)) - a very different thing.

Perhaps if you take objection to our comments you should perhaps clarify and
quantify your comments on just how much effort was required to understand
the examples? and why? i.e. if the book is more "algorithmic" in nature then
perhaps you cannot get away from examples that do take some considerable
study effort - if this is the case then perhaps you should provide that
clarification/caveat on your comment. Otherwise I'll have to stick with my
decision (unless I stood in the book store and read the book! :-)).

Peter

"Gordon McMillan" <gmcm at hypernet.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9180CE1BAC652gmcmhypernetcom at 199.171.54.214...
> Peter Milliken wrote:
>
> > Actually, I doubt there is any intersection - or perhaps I should
> > qualify that by an intersection in the realms of code that you and only
> > you will ever have to look at or maintain.
> >
> > I side with Roy's opinions purely because it is almost never the code
> > author that has to maintain the code (at least on systems I have worked
> > on over the last 20 years :-)).
>
> This is ridiculous. I said I had to study some things to understand what
was
> going on, and that has become "ewww, it must be bad code".
>
> Every API has two sides. One side is supposed to be easy to use and
> understand. The other side almost certainly isn't. If the internals of
> Python dictionaries were easy to understand, their performance would suck.
>
> If you're only interested in using APIs, this book probably isn't for you.
> But it's presumptuous to equate "challenging" with "bad".
>
> -- Gordon
> http://www.mcmillan-inc.com/

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