Python on the Smalltalk VM [Was: Typing system vs. Java]

[Scott Langley]

Here's what I dug up on this topic:

The SmallScript.net web site says that the first public beta will now
appear this month, August 2001.

And, selectively quoting from this message by David Simmons:

 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&th=df8e1896d4ca941f,38&rnum=2&selm=bq%25F6.22782%24Jh5.22352484%40news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com

"...the AOS Platform has been developed and tested for dynamic (and
dynamically typed) languages and is geared as an adaptive virtual
machine jitting model...
As to Python specifically, I want to stress that work is currently
focused on delivering the .NET, PPC, and x86 platform versions...
Once the other pieces are in place, more attention will be focused on
work in Python and PHP...
As an aside, the execution performance numbers for
SmallScript/Smalltalk are directly indicative of the level of
performance one could expect for Python or PHP on the same platform."

--
Scott Langley
sl at scottlangley.com
http://www.scottlangley.com

"Tim Peters" <tim.one at home.com> wrote in message news:<mailman.996644762.27218.python-list at python.org>...
> [Courageous]
> > http:\\www.smallscript.com. Execution times within 1-2X of C.
> 
> [Terry Reedy]
> > This site has about zero to do with Python.  Main page include Python
> > as (planned) secondary language.  Contents links Python back to PEP
> > index page (bizarre).  'Python for AOS' page is under construction.
> >
> > Where did you find fabulous Python compilation results you keep
> > reporting?
> 
> I believe it originally came from this cryptic tease:
> 
>     Python is a big part for the execution engine, this is a new area.
>     The Smalltalk VM runs Python 10 to 100x faster.
> 
> at
> 
>  http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/html/SmalltalkSolutions2001%232.html
> 
> first referenced in this c.l.py thread:
> 
>     http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&th=b121faa695c8b6fa
> 
> I haven't seen more than that single second-hand claim (except for Joe's
> charming belief that if he repeats it often enough, Guido will get pissed
> off enough to make it a reality now and for free <wink>).
> 
> every-jit-project-is-at-least-a-year-late-and-severely-underperforms-
>     expectations-for-at-least-a-year-after-that-ly y'rs  - tim