Facilities Management software

[Bart Bartels]

I am posting some email responses to this query in chronological order.  I
would like input from others as well.  BTW if this is not the appropriate
forum please point to the correct one.

> Bart, I've just come across your email in PY group, currently we are
forming
> a group on a python project, and with a thinking like yours that we want
to
> pick up the skills in PY, and we target to deliver an implementation in
1.5
> months timeframe. As we are still in the preliminary stage, we would like
to
> know more of your facilities management initiative and see if we could
work
> together. If you are interested, I will let you know of our team's
> background here. Thx.
>
> cheers, KT
> --
> Kenneth Tsang
> email: smt at pacific.net.hk tel: +852 9468 4772

to which I replied

> G'Day Kenneth
>
> Thanks for the email.  I would like to have this appear in the newsgroup
as well
> so I would like your permission to post to it with my and your results.  I
will
> wait till you email back before I do.
>
> I have been an admirer of the Open Source movement for a number of years
and
> wondered how I could become involved.  My area of expertise is in
Facilities
> Management (20 years) starting from a trade background (carpentry).  I
have had
> experience using PCs since 1981 and have a little experience in using VB.
I
> came across Python late last year and have been intrigued ever since.
>
> Now on with it
>
> The department I work in is coming to terms with budgets and limited
resources.
> We have to deal with all these problems as well as improve our own way of
doing
> things.  All the trades and services are outsourced and we manage the
contracts
> and agreements with them.  The University staff pass their requests for
> maintenance and services to us and we then arrange for the work to be
done.
> Included is the normal maintenance and services that we need to run our
> buildings and plant.
>
> > Bart, I've just come across your email in PY group, currently we are
forming
> > a group on a python project, and with a thinking like yours that we want
to
> > pick up the skills in PY, and we target to deliver an implementation in
1.5
> > months timeframe.
> >
> > At present we are using a software package called BEIMS.  This package
is under
> > maintenance and we pay $ for the privilege of using it.  We have had to
adjust
> > our way of doing to conform to the program.  To have it tailored would
cost mega
> > $.  The software as we have it is for our use (10 seats) and is not
available to
> > the Uni staff.  An intranet/internet module can be licensed (again $).
I
> > thought that there may be an open source package that I might be able to
use and
> > modify but it would need to be in an easy to use and modify language,
hence
> > Python.
>
> > As we are still in the preliminary stage, we would like to
> > know more of your facilities management initiative and see if we could
work
> > together. If you are interested, I will let you know of our team's
> > background here. Thx.
>
> At present I have not even started to develop anything.  I have a vague
idea of
> what I want to do and I may not even be able to get it implemented by my
> managers.  BUT I have to try.  I would love to be involved in anything
that
> anyone has started even if only to give feedback.
>
> Hope that this is the sort of information that you need from me.  If not
then
> ask me some questions.
>
> :-)
>
> Bart


And then I sent

> G'Day Kenneth
>
> Further to my previous email
>
> What tasks do I want to do?
> -    record job requests
> -    track job requests
> -    provide feedback to job requester
> -    close job request
> -    enter additional data on job
> -    trends and histories
>
>
> I believe that the software requirements fall into natural "blocks".
>
>     - back end possibly one of the following
>             MySQL or similar, which would need someone knowledgeable to
drive
> it.
>             XML type file, which also would need someone to drive it.
>             ODBC compliant database file created by ??? software.
>             a simple file (poor choice)
>
>     - administration module, again one of the following
>             python based, or
>             browser based
>
>     - data entry
>             python based, or
>             browser based
>
>     - job request
>             browser based
>
> My thoughts are that I would use python for any machine based staff entry
and
> jython within the browser.
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Bart


the reply

> Bart, your response is so quick :-)... I would have the tasks in point
form
> we can follow easily
>
> -system design and spec.
> *this could start from the daily operations, we could then work out the
> process+data model
> -type of users for this system
> *internal university staff like
>     administration
>     users
> *external partner
>     contracts and agreement need to maintain in this system?
> -any data migration required from BEIMS
>
> -technology is not an issue, just need to consider
> --database (better neutral to db vendor)
> --python
> --xml output (depends on how you gonna work with your partners)
> --jpython (maybe next phase)
> --browser/standalone
>
> cheers, Kenneth
> --
> Kenneth Tsang
> email: smt at pacific.net.hk tel: +852 9468 4772
>

and then

> Bart,
> > What tasks do I want to do?
> > -    record job requests
> > -    track job requests
> > -    provide feedback to job requester
> > -    close job request
> > -    enter additional data on job
> > -    trends and histories
>
> This is exactly what we want, but we need to have the details more
specific,
> so we could work on the process model.
>
> cheers, Kenneth
> --
> Kenneth Tsang
> email: smt at pacific.net.hk tel: +852 9468 4772
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