New Python development process (SourceForge considered Harmful?)

[Eric Lee Green]

Tom wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the links.
> 
> I guess the reason the sf ads bug me so much is that, other than the ads, I
> find SF works very poorly.
> I went to report a minor bug today, but after several pages that only showed
> me ads (a bug obviously), having to log in, and generally very slow
> response, I gave up.

The slow response, at least, does not appear to be SourceForge's fault. I run
a mailing list via SourceForge (the mtx mailing list, see
http://mtx.sourceforge.net ), and mail has been very slow at getting anywhere.
One of my list users extracted why:

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Extracted Ticket

Ticket Number : NORDUnet/20000920-0157
Title         : Route flapping for valinux/sourceforge etc.
Receiver      : ndn-fail at nordu.net

Ticket Status : Closed             Opening time    : N/A
Ticket Type   : Unscheduled        Ticket Source   : NORDUnet
Ticket Scope  : Routing            Ticket Priority :
Ticket Owner  : he at nordu.net       Ticket Issuer   : he at nordu.net
Problem Fixer : VAlinux' upsream provider (?) Est. time to Fix:

Ticket Opened : 20000920 21:27 UTC Problem Starts  : 20000920 06:00 UTC
       Closed : 20000925 10:13 UTC          Ended  : 20000925 10:13 UTC

Problem Description:
        * 20000920 21:35 UTC, he at nordu.net
          NORDUnet is seeing the prefix 198.186.200.0/22 flapping
          through TeleGlobe, and the prefix is currently dampened away
          from NORDUnet's routing table.

          This prefix causes unreachability of www.sourceforge.net
          and inability to look up names in valinux.com's domain, causing
          several user inquries over the day.

          Instability (BGP route flap) information from us-gw2:

             Network          From            Flaps Duration Reuse    Path
          *d 198.186.200.0/22 207.45.202.25   337   15:25:16 00:32:10 6453
701
6067 6939 7091
          *d                  207.45.202.21   341   15:25:38 00:24:40 6453
701
6067 6939 7091

          i.e. more than 330 flaps over the last 15 hours.
          -----


Affected:
        * 20000920 21:35 UTC, he at nordu.net
          NORDUnet users wanting to contact hosts in the given address
space.
          -----
Action:
        * 20000920 21:35 UTC, he at nordu.net
          Problem reported to TeleGlobe for tracing and reporting on to
their
          upstreams so that the underlying reason can be found and fixed
          (we hope!).  TeleGlobe ticket #149459.


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This basically means (from what I understand) that TeleGlobe (which is 
sourceforges ISP) has problems with unstable routing.

I would suspect this is not a problem only from NORDUnet.
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