"stty size" isn't defined on my Irix box, but: tput cols works on each of my Irix, SuSE and TurboLinux boxes, issuing simply the number of columns. -- ======================================================================= I won't rest till it's the best ... Software Production Engineer Paul Jackson (pj at sgi.com; pj at usa.net) 3x1373 http://sam.engr.sgi.com/pj