Language forks (was: Python tutorial/comparison for C++ programmer)

[Chris Ryland]

A cynical view of ODBC's appearance might be (I was there, indirectly) that
Borland had already proposed a competing (and working) standard, and MS
wanted to regain control of that situation.

Naw.
--
Cheers!
/ Chris Ryland, President / Em Software, Inc. / www.emsoftware.com
"Steve Holden" <sholden at bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:38DFA08C.4142A22 at bellatlantic.net...
> In Microsoft's defense (what, me? this must be my good deed for
> the week) we should remember that they DO have occasional good
> ideas such as ODBC.  I'm aware it has shortcomings, but it's
> made multi-platform database systems a practical reality.
>
> And, of course, mxODBC (among others) brings these benefits
> to the Python world too.
>
> The thing that freaks me about Microsoft is the bringing to
> market of products that were clearly designed by people (?)
> with minimal industry experience, full of kluges and not at
> all orthogonal in design.  Then they were implemented by a
> further bunch of fresh graduates.  And instead of writing these
> deviations off as bad idea Microsoft actually DEFENDS them.
>
> Just goes to show how difficult it is to find and retain good
> staff, I suppose.
>
> How unlike the recent "Multi-argument append() was a bad
> idea, so it's being removed" decision.
>
> regards
>  Steve
>
> Mark Hammond wrote:
> >
> > "Grant Edwards" <nobody at nowhere.nohow> wrote in message
> > news:slrn8dt5fb.bin.nobody at isis.visi.com...
> > > Cameron Laird wrote:
> > > >
> > > > how does it happen that CPython and JPython
> > > > happily co-exist?
> > >
> > > Because they've decided to?  The goal of one is not to kill the
> > other. That
> > > can rarely be said of MS's attitude towards other entities in the SW
> > world.
> > > MS seems to actively attempt to diverge from standards in order to
> > try to
> > > kill off those standards and establish their own dominance.
> >
> > This also works in reverse - I think it would be accurate to say that
> > the rest of the industry is very suspicious of MS, and very relucant
> > to work with MS or embrace their standard deviations - even on the
> > (possibly rare) occasions when it is a necessary and well designed
> > extension.
> >
> > Don't forget that CPython also made concessions to JPython - wanting
> > to work with each other cuts both ways...
> >
> > Mark.
>
> --
> "If computing ever stops being fun, I'll stop doing it"