XML-RPC was [pygtk] Python and Orbit Examples

[Pehr Anderson]

Dear Blair,

I'm not sure what the best reference is since I haven't set up
the apache + mod_ssl server end before. I assume you could just
use a python cgi script that parses the arguments from a web form.
Then you send it the web form with your XML tucked into a 
form variable.

I don't know how much this changes in the SSL wolrd, but it seems
like you could use the simplifying facade of filling in a secure
web-form by hand, pasting a block of XML into the textfield.

For reference on HTML forms and such, I really like the specs
at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/

	-pehr


On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 09:36:42PM -0700, Blair Lowe wrote:
> Thanks Pehr,
> 
> At 19:41 -0500 2000/12/06, Pehr Anderson wrote:
> >Dear Blair,
> >
> >I'd recommend doing XML over a simple socket, without relying on
> >HTTP or SSL as a transport protocol, but that would require you
> >to include a security model within your XML specification.
> 
> Not my choice. The vendor decides this. I just have to connect and 
> pass XML stuff back and forth. Probably good advice for a vendor, 
> though.
> 
> >
> >It's not a bad idea to handle security separately from transport
> >unless you are set on the SSL security model.  It would be
> >perfectly reasonable to do a HTTP POST with your XML querry
> >and wait for the reply as an XML document, then all you need
> is the SSL interface for python.
> 
> >
> >Python 2.0 includes support for SSL in its web libraries,
> >or you could try to do something with SSL by calling
> >lynx using os.popen("lynx --source https://...").read()
> 
> I shall look into python 2.0. We are using 1.5 right now.
> 
> Pardon my ignorance, but would I connect to the ssl site with a POST 
> context of XML/SSL, or something? How do I get the other site ready 
> to accept XML? Headers? Where can I find more information on this 
> stuff (ie. what book(s), where are docs on line).
> 
> Thanks,
> Blair.
> 
> >
> >         -pehr
> >
> >On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 04:05:03PM -0700, Blair Lowe wrote:
> >>  Sounds cool.
> >>
> >>  I found pyXML. at http://download.sourceforge.net/pyxml/.
> >>
> >>  Can one send XML to an SSL site with pyXML as well? If so, where is
> >>  some good docs for this. The version I got (PyXML-0.6.2-2.0.i386.rpm)
> >>  has not docs, and the overview at 4suite say I need to download
> >>  something else.
> >>
> >>  Are there some better tools for doing this. I started to look at
> >>  Zope, but it was rather cumbersome and knowing where to start with
> >>  the documentation was not easy to find either.
> >>
> >>  TTYL,
> >  > Blair.
> >>
> >>  At 16:53 -0500 2000/12/06, Pehr Anderson wrote:
> >>  >Dear Folks,
> >>  >
> >>  >I would highly recommend using XML-RPC as a minimally complicated
> >>  >way to communicate data between your apps.
> >>  >
> >>  >This might sound complicated but it really only means
> >>  >	1. specify XML encodings for your data, use these throught your code
> >  > >	2. open a socket on the target
> >>  >	3. send an XML query and wait for an XML response
> >>  >	4. parse the response
> >>  >
> >>  >The beautiful thing about XML-RPC (remote proceedure call) is
> >>  >that it is just dirt simple. You open a socket, dump in
> >>  >human readable text, and wait for a human-readable response.
> >>  >Everything gets completely defined somewhere and servers and
> >>  >clients could be coded in *anything*!
> >>  >No complicated tools are required to implement any parts of
> >>  >this system though you might want to look at how others
> >>  >parse XML rather than doing it all by hand.
> >>  >
> >>  >And the best part is you'll have an app that anyone can understand.
> >>  >No secret church of CORBA, COM or other "special tools".
> >>  >XML is directly comprehensible by HUMAN BEINGS and that makes it
> >>  >a sustainable encoding with simple tcp sockets for transport.
> >>  >
> >>  >	-pehr
> >>  >
> >
> >  > >
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