[Python-ideas] Looking for input to help with the pip situation

[Chris Angelico]

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Michel Desmoulin
<desmoulinmichel at gmail.com> wrote:
> Proposal B:
> ------------
>
> Make pip and venv part of the standard and request debian that they
> provide it.
>
> Pros: straight forward.
>
> Cons: holy war in the making.

If this would really cause such back-lash, how about: Make pip and
venv part of the standard, but permit them to be omitted from
"python3" as long as there is a "python3-full" package that will drag
them in. Several other packages are split up like that.

Pros: Only slightly less straight-forward, and hopefully incites only
a small war.

Cons: What does "full" really mean? Does it require a GUI subsystem,
for instance (as a dep of tkinter)? Might just shift the problem.
OTOH, the sorts of people who run non-graphical Linuxes are usually
going to be comfortable installing python3-pip explicitly, so maybe
it's doable.

ChrisA