[Python-ideas] from __pip__ import

[אלעזר]

Thanks Joonas. I withdraw my proposal - nothing more is strictly needed. It
should be idiomatic somehow, but I don't have any specific suggestion.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 7:59 PM Joonas Liik <liik.joonas at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 19 September 2016 at 19:55, אלעזר <elazarg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > A library in PyPi  still requires installing it, which undermine many of
> the
> > benefits. It won't help me with my gist/activestate recipe, code that I
> send
> > to a friend, etc. I want to lower the barrier of inexperienced users.
> >
> > As a documentation of dependencies it will suffice indeed.
> >
> > Elazar
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 7:38 PM Ethan Furman <ethan at stoneleaf.us> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 09/19/2016 09:25 AM, אלעזר wrote:
> >>
> >> > Many proposals to add something to stdlib are rejected here with the
> >> > suggestion to add such library to pypi first. As noted by someone,
> pypi is
> >> > not as reachable as stdlib, and one should install that package
> first, which
> >> > many people don't know how. Additionally, there is no natural
> distinction
> >> > between 3rd party dependencies and in-project imports (at least in
> tiny
> >> > projects).
> >> >
> >> > This can be made easier if the first line of the program will declare
> >> > the required library, and executing it will try to download and
> install that
> >> > library if it is not installed yet. Additionally, the 3rd party
> dependencies
> >> > will be more explicit, and editors can then allow you to search for
> them as
> >> > you type.
> >> >
> >> > Of course it is *not* an alternative for real dependency management,
> but
> >> > it will ease the burden on small scripts and tiny projects - which
> today
> >> > simply break with errors that many users does not understand, instead
> of
> >> > simply asking permission to install the dependency.
> >>
> >> This should start out as a library on PyPI.  (Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)
> >>
> >> Actually, it should.  Perhaps a name of "import_pip" would make sense?
> >> Any hurdles faced by this library would be (mostly) the same as a stdlib
> >> version.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ~Ethan~
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> using pip from within python is not that difficult already.
> as can be seen with a glance to:
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12332975/installing-python-module-within-code
>
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