[Python-ideas] Top 10 Python modules that need a redesign Was: Geo coordinates conversion in stdlib

Mark Lawrence breamoreboy at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Apr 4 20:25:23 CEST 2015


On 04/04/2015 05:18, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Author is me, so you can ask directly. Why I didn't propose to redesign?
>> Because people will assume that somebody will need to write PEP and will
>> force me to write one. I don't believe in "redesign by specification" like
>> current PEP process assumes and people accuse me of being lazy and trolling
>> them, because I don't want to write the PEPs. Damn, I believe in iterative
>> development and evolution, and I failed to persuade coredevs that practices
>> digged up by people under the "agile" label is not some sort of corporate
>> bullshit. So it is not my problem now. I did all I am capable of.
>
> Why, exactly, is it that you don't want to author a PEP? Is it because
> you don't have the time to devote to chairing the discussion and all?
> If so, you could quite possibly persuade someone else to. I'd be
> willing to take on the job; convince me that your core idea is worth
> pursuing (and make clear to me precisely what your core idea is), and
> I could do the grunt-work of writing. But you say that you "don't
> *believe in*" the process, which suggests a more philosophical
> objection. What's the issue, here? Why are you holding back from such
> a plan? *cue the troll music*
>
> There are many Pythons in the world. You can't just hack on CPython
> and expect everything to follow on from there. Someone has to explain
> to the Jython folks what they'll have to do to be compatible. Someone
> has to write something up so MicroPython can run the same code that
> CPython does. Someone, somewhere, has to be able to ensure that
> Brython users aren't caught out by your proposed change. PEPs provide
> that. (They also provide useful pointers for the "What's New" lists,
> eg PEP 441.)
>
> So, are you proposing a change to Python? Then propose it.
>
> ChrisA
>

I don't understand why people bother with this gentleman.  All talk, no 
action, but expects others to do his bidding.  I would say "Please go 
take a running jump", but that would get me into trouble with the CoC 
aficionados, so I won't.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence



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