[Python-Dev] Standard library vs Standard distribution?

Gregory P. Smith greg at krypto.org
Thu Nov 29 12:20:15 EST 2018


meta: I'm not participating in this sub-thread. Just changing the subject
line.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 9:17 AM Christian Heimes <christian at python.org>
wrote:

> On 29/11/2018 17.32, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > We may ask ourselves if there is really a large difference between a
> > "standard distribution" and a "standard library".  The primary
> > difference seems to be that the distribution is modular, while the
> > stdlib is not.
>
> Yes, there is a huge difference between a larger distribution and a
> stdlib. I'm going to ignore all legal issues and human drama of "choose
> your favorite kid", but start with a simple example.
>
> I'm sure we can all agree that the requests library should be part of an
> extended Python distribution. After all it's the best and easiest HTTP
> library for Python. I'm using it on a daily basis. However I would
> require some changes to align it with other stdlib modules. Among others
> requests and urllib3 would have to obey sys.flags.ignore_environment and
> accept an SSLContext object. Requests depends on certifi to provide a CA
> trust store. I would definitely veto against the inclusion of certifi,
> because it's not just dangerous but also breaks my code.
>
> If we would keep the standard distribution of Python as it is and just
> have a Python SIG offer an additional extended distribution on
> python.org, then I don't have to care about the quality and security of
> additional code. The Python core team would neither own the code nor
> takes responsibility of the code. Instead the extended distribution SIG
> merely set the quality standards and leave the maintance burden to the
> original owners. In case a library doesn't keep up or has severe flaws,
> the SIG may even decide to remove a package from the extended distribution.
>
> Christian
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