[Python-Dev] Drop/deprecate Tkinter?

[Brian Curtin]

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:37 PM Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 2 May 2018 23:28:22 +0200
> Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 02 May 2018 21:24:07 +0000
> > Brian Curtin <brian at python.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 16:55 Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev <
> > > python-dev at python.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As https://bugs.python.org/issue33257 and
> > > > https://bugs.python.org/issue33316 showed, Tkinter is broken, for
> both
> > > > Py2 and Py3, with both threaded and non-threaded Tcl, since 2002 at
> > > > least, and no-one gives a damn.
> > > >
> > > > This seems to be a testament that very few people are actually
> > > > interested in or are using it.
> > > >
> > > > If that's so, there's no use keeping it in the standard library -- if
> > > > anything, because there's not enough incentive and/or resources to
> > > > support it. And to avoid screwing people (=me) up when they have the
> > > > foolishness to think they can rely on it in their projects --
> nowhere in
> > > > the docs it is said that the module is only partly functional.
> > >
> > >
> > > For the future, this is not how you communicate with the development
> > > mailing list of any open source software project. I would suggest
> reading
> > > https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ for some pointers on how
> people
> > > typically behave around here in particular.
> >
> > Perhaps it would be more constructive to address the OP's point than to
> > play speech police.
>
> To elaborate a bit: the OP, while angry, produced both a detailed
> analysis *and* a PR.  It's normal to be angry when an advertised
> feature doesn't work and it makes you lose hours of work (or, even,
> forces you to a wholesale redesign). Producing a detailed analysis and a
> PR is more than most people will ever do.
>

It may be normal to be angry when something doesn't work the way it should,
but analyzing and creating a PR aren't the gateway to normalizing this
behavior. Sending thousands of people this type of email isn't how it works.

To address their point: no, next topic.
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