[Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 b

Wed Jun 6 20:59:17 EDT 2018

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 7:03 PM Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev <
python-dev at python.org> wrote:

> On 05.06.2018 17:28, Martin Gainty wrote:
>
> who owns the Data hosted on Github?
>
> Github Author?
> Microsoft?
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> https://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service/#d-user-generated-content
> :
>
> "*You own content you create, but you allow us certain rights to it, so
> that we can display and share the content you post. You still have control
> over your content, and responsibility for it, and the rights you grant us
> are limited to those we need to provide the service.*
>

Is the “service” they provide (and what it needs) allowed to change over
time, so that the rights granted can expand? The definition of “service” in
their document is—

   1. The “Service” refers to the applications, software, products, and
   services provided by GitHub.

—Chris

* We have the right to remove content or close Accounts if we need to."*
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> <python-dev-bounces+mgainty=hotmail.com at python.org> on behalf of M.-A.
> Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> <mal at egenix.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 7:54 AM
> *To:* Antoine Pitrou; python-dev at python.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion
>
> Something that may change is the way they treat Github
> accounts, after all, MS is very much a sales driven company.
>
> But then there's always the possibility to move to Gitlab
> as alternative (hosted or run on PSF VMs), so I would
> worry too much.
>
> Do note, however, that the value in Github is not so much with
> the products they have, but with the data. Their databases
> know more about IT developer than anyone else and given
> that Github is put under the AI umbrella in MS should tell
> us something :-)
>
>
> On 04.06.2018 19:02, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> >
> > That's true, but Microsoft has a lot of stakes in the ecosystem.
> > For example, since it has its own CI service that it tries to promote
> > (VSTS), is it in Microsoft's best interest to polish and improve
> > integrations with other CI services?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Antoine.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 09:06:28 -0700
> > Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> <guido at python.org> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>
> <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 17:03:27 +0200
> >>> Victor Stinner <vstinner at redhat.com> <vstinner at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> At this point, I have no opinion about the event :-) I just guess that
> >>>> it should make GitHub more sustainable since Microsoft is a big
> >>>> company with money and interest in GitHub. I'm also confident that
> >>>> nothing will change soon. IMHO there is no need to worry about
> >>>> anything.
> >>>
> >>> It does spell uncertainty on the long term.  While there is no need to
> >>> worry for now, I think it gives a different colour to the debate about
> >>> moving issues to Github.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I don't see how this *increases* the uncertainty. Surely if GitHub had
> >> remained independent there would have been be similar concerns about
> how it
> >> would make enough money to stay in business.
> >>
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