[Python-Dev] PEP 572: Do we really need a ":" in ":="?

Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopolsky at gmail.com
Thu Jul 5 19:42:34 EDT 2018


I wish I had more time to make my case, but with the PEP 572 pronouncement
imminent, let me make an attempt to save Python from having two assignment
operators.

I've re-read the PEP, and honestly I am warming up to the idea of allowing
a limited form of assignment in expressions.  It looks like in the current
form, the PEP supports only well-motivated cases where the return value of
the assignment expression is non-controversial.  It also appears that there
are no cases where = can be substituted for := and not cause a syntax
error.  This means that ":" in ":=" is strictly redundant.

Interestingly, Python already has a precedent for using redundant ":" - the
line-ending ":" in various statements is redundant, but it is helpful both
when reading and writing the code.

On the other hand, ':' in ':=' looks like an unnecessary embellishment.
When we use ':=', we already know that we are inside an expression and
being inside an expression is an obvious context for the reader, the writer
and the interpreter.

I also believe, allowing a limited form of assignment in expressions is a
simpler story to tell to the existing users than an introduction of a new
operator that is somewhat like '=', but cannot be used where you currently
use '=' and only in places where '=' is currently prohibited.
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