[Python-Dev] Fwd: 2.x vs 3.x survey results

[Guido van Rossum]

I'm sure that the main problem is that people don't search.
Surprisingly, it's often easier to complain "there is no X" than to
try to search for a solution to X.

On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Eli Bendersky <eliben at gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>
> Date: Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results
> To: python-dev at python.org
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> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:23:45 -0600
> Brian Curtin <brian at python.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Lennart Regebro <regebro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:20 AM, John Yeuk Hon Wong
>> > <gokoproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there is a
>> >> reference of the difference between 2.7 and Python 3.3+.
>> >
>> > Not specifically for 2.7 and 3.3, no. This is a fairly complete list:
>> >
>> > http://python3porting.com/differences.html
>> >
>> >> There are PEPs and books, but is there any such long list of
>> >> references?
>> >>
>> >> If not, should we start investing in one? I know the basic one such as
>> >> xrange and range, items vs iteritems, izip vs zip that sort of uniform
>> >> syntax/library inclusion difference.
>> >>
>> >> If there is such reference available?
>> >
>> > I'm honestly despairing that people still don't know that there is a
>> > free book on the topic. I have no idea how to increase the knowledge
>> > on this point.
>>
>> I think we collectively need better SEO, or something like that.
>> Python 3 would be in a better place if people actually knew the
>> current state of things, versus asking people on "Hacker News".
>
> Perhaps there should be a porting guide as a prominent chapter in
> http://docs.python.org/3/ ?
>
> The (incognito) Google query "porting from python 2 to 3" pops up this as
> the first result:
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> http://docs.python.org/dev/howto/pyporting.html
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> 2nd place is the wiki.python.org page; 3 & 4 are from Lennart's book.
>
> So the SEO is fine, it seems - at least in this case. Similar queries
> provide similar results. If anyone comes up with a resonable query that
> gives bad results, we can do some lightweight SEO on it by adding a few
> links here and there.
>
> Eli
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