[Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

geremy condra debatem1 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 12 12:37:05 CEST 2010


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Stefan Krah <stefan at bytereef.org> wrote:
> Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:22 PM, geremy condra <debatem1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> (This seems to me like an area where a judicious application of PSF funds might help; if every
>> >>> single bug were actively triaged and responded to, even if it weren't reviewed, and patch
>> >>> contributors were directed to take specific steps to elicit a response or a review, the fact that
>> >>> patch reviews take a while might not be so bad.)
>> >>
>> >> The operative word being "judicious". It is not obvious who should get
>> >> funded, and for what tasks.
>> >> Some specific issues (like email in 3.x) are large enough that they can
>> >> be the sole focus of a fund grant. But I'm not sure triaging can apply.
>> >
>> > I'm mulling over starting a monthly triage sprint under the auspices of
>> > Jesse Noeller's PSF sponsored sprints in the hopes of making this a
>> > little more fun. I'd appreciate comments on the idea.
>
> [responding to Geremy]
>
> I'm with Georg on this. If triaging needs a monetary incentive because it
> is tedious work, so does committing. A lot of the abandoned issues aren't
> very glamorous either.

I'm not sure what you mean by "monetary incentive". I was considering
handing a t-shirt or beer token to the most productive sprinters, but
that's about the limit of it, and I suspect that would come out of my
pocket.

I'd also emphasize that I am exactly as far as I stated on this: I'm
mulling it over and asking for feedback. If it turns out that there
are other things that python-dev feels are more necessary but
similarly unglamorous, then I'll think about doing that instead.

> Also, from the work that Mark Lawrence has been doing on the tracker in
> the past few weeks, it's apparent that a dedicated person can achieve a
> lot without pay.

Indeed, although I'm again unsure what pay has to do with this.

> Due to his tracker reshuffling, many issues got closed, several bug
> reporters responded after years, etc. Thanks, Mark!

+1

Geremy Condra


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