[Python-Dev] buildtime vs runtime in Distutils

[Tarek Ziadé]

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Terry Reedy <tjreedy at udel.edu> wrote:
> Christian Heimes wrote:
>>
>> Tarek Ziadé wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> http://bugs.python.org/issue4359 reminds me that Distutils reads build
>>> files like Makefile or pyconfig.h to get some environment
>>> variables through the sysconfig module at *runtime*.
>>>
>>> This cannot work on all platforms, when our Makefile is not shipped
>>> with python but python-devel. (like Fedora)
>>
>> Do we really want to change distutils to solve a problem of a third
>> party packaging system when the problem was created by the very same
>> third party in the first place? In other words: Should you spend your
>> precious development time with fixing a problem that isn't our fault?
>> The decision to split the header files into a separate package, that
>> isn't installed by default, has already created tons of bad user
>> experience in the past. Do you want to endorse the split even further?
>>
>> -0 from me
>
> If the third party disables distutils by removing some of the things it
> (sometimes) needs, then it seems to me that they should also remove disutils
> into the separate package. If *that* creates a problem, that should be
> *their* problem.

Ok. Fair enough, I'll work with them this way.

Regards
Tarek