[Python-Dev] [Python-3000] First betas (perhaps) on June 18

[Guido van Rossum]

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Georg Brandl <g.brandl at gmx.net> wrote:
> Guido van Rossum schrieb:
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Facundo Batista
>> <facundobatista at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2008/6/13 Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org>:
>>>
>>>> My proposal is this: I will spin another release this coming Wednesday,
>>>> June
>>>> 18.  If we can get both the 2.6 and 3.0 buildbots green by then, and
>>>> close
>>>> out all remaining release critical bugs, then Wednesday's release will
>>>> be
>>>> beta 1.  In that case, I will update PEP 361 and push the entire
>>>> schedule
>>>> back by 2 weeks to account for our slippage.
>>>
>>> Next weekend, 21 and 22, it will be the Python Bug days.
>>>
>>> Maybe it's worth to delay the betas one week to include this work?
>>
>> You mean one more week? (Barry's already delaying them one week.)
>>
>> I'm fine with whatever delay Barry approves, but I want EVERYONE to
>> stick to the purpose of the delay: get the buildbots green and close
>> out release critical bugs. This means no new last-minute features or
>> big refactorings (unless there's really no more conservative way to
>> fix a critical bug). It also means try to get at least one other
>> person to review every change, no matter how small (or big!) *before*
>> submitting. It also means run the tests before submitting.
>
> That is a new policy, isn't it?

Yes -- one that seems appropriate during a beta release period (i.e.
until 2.6 and 3.0 final are out).

>> On the specific purpose of delaying for the bug day, I'm hesitant --
>> bug days tend to cause a great deal of commits of code by relatively
>> new developers, which is counter to our purpose of stability. I would
>> almost say it's better for the bug day to fall right after the beta.
>> That also has the advantage that the bug day can focus on new bugs in
>> the beta, and squash them right away...
>
> +1.

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