[Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Betas today - I hope

[Guido van Rossum]

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:32 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> There are two things I'd like to get in to 3.0:
>
>  * .transform()/.untransform() methods (this is mostly done, just need
>   to add the methods to PyUnicode, PyBytes and PyByteArray)

I'm +0 on this. It is very minor syntactic sugar that typically saves
you only one import. I expect the argument will nearly always be a
literal, e.g. data.transform('gzip') rather than a variable like
data.transform(compression_method). But it *is* convenient and can
make code more readable, e.g.

  if compressed:
     data = data.untransform('gzip')

Nobody will have to guess what that does. (IMO the confusion about
which direction the transformation goes is theoretical. except perhaps
in the case of rot13. :-)

>  * cleanup of the PyUnicode_AsString() and PyUnicode_AsStringAndSize()
>   C APIs (these APIs don't fit into the naming scheme used in the
>   Unicode API and have a few other issues as well, see issue 2799;
>   at the very least they should be made interpreter internal, ie.
>   rename them to _PyUnicode_AsString() and _PyUnicode_AsStringAndSize()
>   to prevent their use in extensions)

I'm okay with this too.

> I did not have time in the last few days to work on these and won't
> in the next few days either. Next week looks much better.
>
> If it's ok to make the above changes after the release (whatever you
> call it ;-), that would be great.

That's up to the release manager, but IMO we could have a small list
of *specific* things that are not yet implemented in beta 1 but that
we know will be in beta 2. This is IMO better than just calling it
another alpha, because that keeps the floodgates for more feature
change requests open for another month.

--Guido

> Thanks,
> --
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> eGenix.com
>
> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Jun 11 2008)
>>>>
>>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2008-07-07: EuroPython 2008, Vilnius, Lithuania            25 days to go
>
> :::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,MacOSX for free ! ::::
>
>
>   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
> _______________________________________________
> Python-3000 mailing list
> Python-3000 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000
> Unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-3000/guido%40python.org
>



-- 
--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)