[Python-Dev] bytes type discussion

[Fredrik Lundh]

Thomas Wouters wrote:

> > After reading some of the discussion, and seen some of the arguments,
> > I'm beginning to feel that we need working code to get this right.
> >
> > It would be nice if we could get a bytes() type into the first alpha, so
> > the design can get some real-world exposure in real-world apps/libs be-
> > fore 2.5 final.
>
> I agree that working code would be nice, but I don't see why it should be in
> an alpha release. IMHO it shouldn't be in an alpha release until it at least
> looks good enough for the developers, and good enough to put in a PEP.

I'm not convinced that the PEP will be good enough without experience
from using a bytes type in *real-world* (i.e. *existing*) byte-crunching
applications.

if we put it in an early alpha, we can use it with real code, fix any issues
that arises, and even remove it if necessary, before 2.5 final.  if it goes in
late, we'll be stuck with whatever the PEP says.

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