[Python-Dev] installing IDLE & other Tools
Jeremy Hylton
jeremy@alum.mit.edu
Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:13:36 -0500 (EST)
>>>>> "GvR" == Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> writes:
>> > I don't know how to package up idle cleanly, though. I need to
>> > decide what to install and where to install it. The Tools/idle
>> > directory is nominally a package, but it doesn't seem like that
>> > will help much for installing it. If we want to call the
>> > executable script idle.py, it will clash with the idle package
>> > name. Any advice here? It doesn't seem like there is any
>> > obvious way to "install" IDLE; it looks like it is intended to
>> > be run out of the source directory.
>>
GvR> For Windows, the IDLE problem is solved: it's installed in
GvR> directory <topdir>/Tools/idle/ and there's a link to it in the
GvR> start menu. It's not directly accessible from the command line
GvR> -- but on Windows, nobody cares about the command line.
GvR> Maybe we can extend this idea to Unix. Concrete proposal:
GvR> install IDLE as
GvR> <prefix>/lib/python<version>/site-packages/Tools/idle/, and
GvR> place a symlink or 2-line bootstrap script in
GvR> <prefix>/bin/idle.
How about
<prefix>/lib/python<version>/Tools/idle
instead. I suggest the change to support an until-now-implicit policy
that anything in site-packages actually be a package. If things in
site-packages aren't supposed to be packages, it ought to be called
something like site-tools <0.2 wink>.
GvR> The introduction of the extra directory level "Tools" implies
GvR> that idle is not importable as a package from regular Python.
GvR> This is how I want it -- otherwise I could/would have made IDLE
GvR> a package in the Lib/lib-tk directory instead of a directory in
GvR> Tools.
I think the extra Tools directory still implies this, even if it isn't
in site-packages.
GvR> I'd gladly accept a contribution of a setup.py file that does
GvR> this for me. (I looked at the distutils manual for a bit but
GvR> decided that I'd have to read it cover-to-cover to figure out
GvR> whether what I want is even possible...)
Is there a reason why IDLE has this peculiar installation process?
Might there be a better way to do it now that we have distutils. If
there is, we could put it in PEP 42.
Jeremy